Tuesday, March 6, 2012
Ok so I see alot of people starting to go for the raw diet for thier dogs. Now what im wondering is do you still give them treats like milkbone treats anymore? Or can they only have raw meat and thats it....then what happens if you cant give them a treat and your trying to crate train them?|||Dehydrated liver or heart pieces are what the majority of my raw feeding pals uses for treats as well as bully sticks <don't ask> dried animal tendons etc. There are a whole host off things you can use for treats that aren't milkbones etc.
Most raw feeders don't use commercial treats because just like kibble they contain things your dogs don't need.
As for people going on about germs - Only a concern if you are using meat packing company package meat or you have AWFUL food handling skills that would get you fired from a restaurant.
How to handle germs
separate cutting board and knife for dog food
Feed your dog in one spot or outside. Lay down a towel or plastic mat under the bowl.
Do NOT allow the dog to wander with its food.
Wash your hands(DUH)
Wash anything the dog has eaten on after all food is gone.
If need be wipe down your dogs face.
Vets - about 1 in 10/1 in 20 vets are actually raw friendly or pro raw. Most pro raw vets feed raw themselves. Vets know what they are taught - Kibble by the kibble company. Ask anyone who actually feeds raw and has a supportive vet. People go on about kibble like its been there since day one. It hasn't. Dog food used to be from HORSE MEAT on a regular basis. When Cat food was first started it KILLED most cats because there wasn't enough Taurine. Cooking destroys tuarine and because of that they have to add it back in.
As far as crate training goes - I know plenty of people who have done it without the use of treats.|||Feeding raw is a great thing. Dogs were not designed to eat grains, corn, and soy. You may supplement with natural treats for the vitamins they will not get from the raw. You have to know what you are doing though in order to feed raw.|||Keep a pocket full of raw chicken livers for treats.
Just kidding.
My Gs lives on chicken quarters ,need hearts,liver, eggs.
They will still eat your treats.
Raw is best. No dog smell,leaner and healthier,compact turds,
As inexpensive as the bag|||The way a dog's body is designed, there is more beneficial bacteria and enzymes in their stomach and intestines to kill the bacterias that would make us sick in the raw meat. The same if you've ever watched a cat catch a wild bird. Our animals we're born to eat raw meat, and we have conditioned them to eat dog food, just as some dog food companies have tried to optimize a dogs diet. So, in that respect, they can also eat a milkbone or training treat and be okay just like if they ate a kibble dinner. Most dogs, however, prefer raw meat to any dog treat.
As for my furry family: my guys love raw. They see the chicken package come out of the freezer, and even the cats get starry eyed waiting for their portions. I give it as an extra to a grainless dog kibble, simply for convenience, so it's not something they always have, but about once a week or so, or when I find a good deal on meat. The thing with a whole raw diet is that you need to also make some dietary supplements in there because store bought meat is not always the same as a wild caught meat.|||Bacteria? Really? Can't you naysayers come up with something better than that argument? The only bacteria issues would be not cleaning up after they eat, or not washing YOUR hands after handling the meat. You use the same precautions with feeding your dogs as you would feeding your children.
For the person who said their vet said "i wouldn't do that" is because he won't get a commission off promoting a raw diet. he won't get paid when your dog doesn't need their teeth cleaned. he won't get paid for cancer treatments. he won't get paid when your dog doesn't need that special kibble the he only sells..
wake up people - vet's are in the business to make money, and only hand full actually care about the well being of animals.
For training treats, I use freeze dried liver or red barn. For tracking I'll use red barn. I won't give my dogs milk bones or anything like that - they don't need it, plus they know it's crap and would refuse it if they had a choice.|||Raw food was WONDERFUL! My Ollie's teeth are still immaculate, his breath never got to be stinky, his poops are itty bitty, hard, and they turn white and dissolve into the ground within days, and most of all his coat is so soft and beautiful now. It takes him about a year to build up enough doggie oils to really need another bath.
And a good rule of thumb, if you go to a vet, and he's got Iams stacked up on his walls, and then recomments Iams... maybe not the best idea.|||I LOVE the Raw Diet because it has saved and drastically improved my dogs life. He has been 4oo times healthier on the Raw Diet and he no longer has many of the health problems he had on kibble. I would never feed him milkbones but he still gets treats just healthy ones like Meat Jerky from Wellness. Freeze Dried meats from Natures Variety or fresh chicken or liver pieces. They can have anything that any dog on any diet can. The Raw Diet is just a healthier and more natural way of caring for your dog. There is nothing out there that says the dog can not eat just this or that.|||I believe ALL dog food is sh*t in a bag. Yes, premium foods are better. But why do we feel that cooked oats and vegetables are species appropriate for a carnivore? They AREN'T. Not only that, but the simple process of cooking food puts it in a state where it is not recognized by the dog's body as a natural source of food. This causes the body to have to work even harder to digest it. Years and years of this organ overdrive can lead to premature liver and pancreas problems.
Dogs are designed to get 75% of their water intake from the food they eat. Once again, because dry food is DRY, it puts the kidney into overtime to digest and process it. Can lead to premature kidney problems. Not only that, but most dogs do not truly drink enough water, because dogs were never meant to drink so much water.
I have fed a prey model raw diet for almost two years now. 80-90% meat AND bones, and 10-20% organ meat. It models the prey animals a wild wolf or dog would eat. NO vegetables and NO supplements.
Dogs are carnivores. End of discussion. This IGNORANT myth that they are omnivores was largely promoted by dog food companies to promote the use of cheap grains in their foods. Dogs have the same exact digestive system as wolves. Wolves do NOT graze and forage on grasses and berries. Wolves do NOT eat the stomach content of prey animals. They shake the stomach out and eat the lining only. Many TOP wolf experts have spend decades studying the eating habits of wolves, and ALL of them have agreed with this.
I do not like mixing raw food with kibble. Dogs are meant to digest meat extremely fast to avoid bacterial build up in their intestines. However, because kibble is so hard to digest, it moves through their system at a much slower rate. Raw can actually get caught behind this kibble, and cause problems.
That being said, I do feed my dog milk bones. My dog gets a milk bone every morning. I go to the store, and I buy him any treats I want to buy him. If I go through a drive through and he is in the car, I'll buy him a plain hamburger. Whatever we eat at night, he usually gets to lick to plates clean after wards. I feel that he gets the best diet possible and he gets daily exercise, so he is allowed to splurge every now and then. Almost everything is fine in moderation.
EDIT: Vets are IDIOTS when it comes to nutrition. They receive VERY little nutritional training. I have done the same nutritional courses a vet would take, and they are all sponsored by dog food companies. Big surprise.
Dogs are MEANT to handle bacteria. Their stomachs are 5 times stronger then ours (acid). Think about all the studies done that show our houses are filled with bacteria. There is ecoli EVERYWHERE. We don't walk around licking everything. But how much stuff does your dog put in his mouth?
Dogs eat SH*T. Every dog at one point in it's life has eaten sh*t. And you're really worried about a piece of chicken straight from the fridge?
Here's another little fact for you: EVERY SINGLE ANIMAL (Including us) HAS ECOLI IN OUR SYSTEMS! *gasp*. It's a natural flora in our intestines that actually aids in digestion. It's only when this flora gets into new surroundings that it can cause problems.
Bacteria will NOT kill your dog. If raw meat was so dangerous, then carnivores would simply die out. Humans in modern civilization are WAY too fearful. We have EXTREMELY weak immune systems because of all the precautions we take to protect ourselves. We are very susceptible to many things that other cultures aren't, and other species definitely aren't.|||I have read a lot of 鈾ove鈾?is a German Shepherd Dog
postings and she is not consistent and she is going to school for veterinary hmmmmmmmmmmmm but she calls vets idiots . I have done the same nutritional courses a vet would take, and they are all NOT sponsored by dog food companies. Mine was not. Please check out the studies and compare for yourself|||I don't like feeding anything raw to them. Too many germs that can seriously injure or kill my babies. I would say no to that. Hope this helps!!|||Everybody keeps telling me how great it is, even (some) people here on Yahoo Answers who I trust A LOT when it comes to dog care. But it sounds a little bit sinister to me...
My vet - another person who I totally rely on - didn't tell me a round no, but gave me a look that said "If I was you, I wouldn't do that". The deal is that yes, it is healthier, because dogs were bred to eat meat, not dog food, but it's also a bit risky because germs can kill your dog...
Maybe it's just the way you prepare it, but I dunno how it works and I'm very happy feeding Purina to my dog (and cats)!
So as you can see... I know nothing on this branch. ah ah|||you know what?.. hmm. im going to be a vet one day and i know alot of stuff about animals atm so yeahh. um well raw meat is perfect for them! especially onces with bones because its perfect for there teeth but remeber that you should give the dog 2 cups of dog biscuts in the morning and then later on when you feed the dog give it raw meat.. because can food makes there poo really runny... maybe before you go to bed give the dogs 1 and half cup of biscuts..and exersice everyday.. and your dog will be healthy as a horse.. okay i hope i helped you :)
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