I would like to start them on a raw meat, raw vegetable, and oat diet that I make at home. How much should I feed my 12 wk springer spaniel pup and my 83 pound senior German shepherd. If you have other suggestions you would like to add that would be great!|||Any diet that gets a dog eating foods that are not filled with preservatives and other chemicals found in most commercial dog food is considered by most canine nutritionists as a step in the right direction. But the raw meat diets which are on the market today fall into the same trap as the all-breed/any-breed kibble and are being sold as "one diet GOOD for all dogs." Even though, in the National Research Council's book, Nutrient Requirements of Dogs,they show how one breed can have a different reaction to a single food source than another breed. There are breeds that have genetic predisposed allergies to beef. Some dog breeds have inherent allergies to fish or chicken. We know that the amino acid content of various meat sources are different and must be in the correct balance for the animal being fed so that the protein is bio-nutritive for that animal and not cause an allergenic reaction. Raw or cooked, you should not use a meat source that will cause the breed of dog you are feeding nutritional distress. It has been PROVEN that the differences in per kilogram nutritional requirements of the different breeds makes it impossible for any one diet, including a raw meat diet, to be nutritionally correct for all dogs. The meat that we can buy at the store (the same meat you and I buy and cook before eating) is NOT the same as the meat that a wild animal eats from a natural kill. Commercial meat has been processed and exposed to many factors that make feeding it to our companion pets potentially harmful. If we could provide the same fresh raw meat that the ancestors of today's dog had access to 600,000 years ago, including the hot fresh guts - what wild animals still go for first in a kill - then it might be OK to feed them with that food source. Unfortunately, today's pet owners can't. Meat that is processed and sold through retailers has been exposed to a number of chemical agents. There are 72,00 chemicals now in use in the USA. Commercial meat, even "Organic meat", can be (and most likely is) exposed to most of these 72,00 chemicals. These MUST be destroyed by using heat to generate temperatures that will break them down. Most companies selling their raw meat diets are promoting this type of diet with the claim that all domesticated dogs descended from the wolf. For years, scholars have debated the origins of today's domesticated dog. In 1787 John Hunter proposed: that since the dog produces fertile hybrids with both the wolf and the jackal, these three canids should be considered a single species. A different view on this was written about by Linnaeus in 1758. He concluded the dog to be a separate species based on the fact that it had physical characteristics unique to the Canis familiaris (domesticated dog). |||Personally I wouldn't, there haven't been enough studies as the to appropriateness and health benefits vs risks of raw food diets. There has been a ton of controversy regarding these diets. I tried a raw food diet on my first border collie about 10+ years ago and her stomach couldn't handle it, I'm assuming that 's what you'll see with your older dog. My biggest concern currently would be possible health risks from bacteria that doesn't get cooked out. The natural argument imo assumes the dog is eating "fresh" heart still beating unprocessed meat. I would recommend a fresh grain fed/ free range cooked diet with lots of fresh non-toxic fruits and vegetables. We would cook a whole chicken weekly and toss in a wide assortment of veggies and make a stew then portion it out into storage containers then bulk cook rice and portion in out per dog and freeze wrap em in saran wrap every other week then heat it up when it was time to feed the dogs. Ask yourself, would I eat it? When I did the weekly cooking of the chicken, veggie rice stew we occasionally stole the dogs food when we were too lazy to cook for ourselves.|||For the raw meat I feed 2 to 3 percent of the ideal body weight. For a 12 week pup it is a little different. I would skip the unneeded grains and veggies. If you still want to feed veggies, then feed them in small amounts because they offer no nutritional value to the dog. If you want proof, feed a carrot and watch the poo for it. You will see carrot chunks in the poo. Dont forget raw bones. You have to keep the calcium:phosporous ratio balanced. This site can help you more with raw diets. www.bigdogsporch.com

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